Heather Larson sits down with Ivy Lumi, musician, Bitcoiner, and podcaster, for a conversation about music, self-love, and why love and Bitcoin might just be on the same frequency. Ivy shares the story behind her debut EP, the making of her first-ever music video for the single WoWoWow (shot in Hong Kong after Bitcoin Asia), and how a period of profound personal loss became the spark that launched her music career. From songs inspired by Bitcoin conference cities to a Geyser Fund campaign built around physical collectors items, Ivy is building something rare: art that lives fully in the value-for-value ecosystem and speaks to everyone, Bitcoiner or not.
Chapters
00:00 Intro and welcome
01:11 The WoWoWow music video: shooting in Hong Kong
02:58 Love is the cure and why love and Bitcoin are the same frequency
03:35 How Bitcoin found Ivy and changed everything
08:44 The real answer to finding love: starting with yourself
11:04 Bitcoin and self-love as long time preference
13:04 Sound money and sound love: how do we know what is good for us?
14:51 Do you have to date a Bitcoiner?
20:15 Bitcoin cannot be your whole personality
24:34 How Ivy found Fountain and value for value before she started writing music
26:05 Losing everything at once: the personal low point that led to songwriting
27:14 Songs inspired by cities: Berlin, Amsterdam, Madeira, Prague
28:24 Song breakdown: Berlin or Left, No Time in Madeira, Follow the Wise Rabbit
30:33 Ivy plays keyboard and writes real music with no AI assistance
33:32 Beginner mindset, humility, and being a good student
36:51 Growing out of black and white thinking
37:31 Why Ivy keeps her music on Spotify and Apple: healing is for everyone
40:00 The Geyser Fund campaign: EP, pin collection, and CD
41:32 What love is the cure looks like as something you can hold
43:34 Geyser is all or nothing: how to support before the campaign closes
45:29 True fan relationships in the value-for-value ecosystem
48:23 Dream concert lineup: performing with friends in the Bitcoin music space
49:29 Why Ivy spends more time on Nostr than Twitter now
52:07 The team and collaborators behind Ivy Lumi
53:27 What happens when a mainstream artist comes out as a Bitcoiner?
54:05 YouTube censorship and why creators are still playing the legacy platform game
55:05 What must we do to ensure Nostr cannot fail?
57:45 How Geyser posts to Nostr and why that matters
59:40 Dreaming of a Bitcoin music festival
01:00:03 Culture is more base layer than money and love is the spark
About Ivy Lumi
Ivy Lumi is a musician and Bitcoiner based in Hong Kong who has worked in the Bitcoin industry for over five years. Her debut EP Cure includes songs written across Bitcoin conference cities including Berlin, Amsterdam, Madeira, and Prague. Her music is available on Fountain, Spotify, Apple Music, and YouTube. Her music video for Waa Waa Waa was co-created with creative director AvZero and visual collaborator Zazawowow.