In episode 150, Avi Burra welcomes Auggie from the “Meshtadel” world to talk regenerative farming, circular Bitcoin economies, and what it looks like to build a parallel system from the dirt up. Avi opens with a “soil is the original protocol” sermon: real resilience comes from base layers (trust, attention, relationships, values), not glossy interfaces or top-of-stack hype. Auggie, a DevOps engineer turned farmer, shares how he’s regenerating 99 acres in Missouri with management-intensive rotational grazing, raising sheep, pigs, and a small but growing cattle herd. He frames “Meshtadel” as both literal mesh networking and a broader metaphor: local “citadels” that can meet essential needs on their own, then trade for luxuries and gaps across a wider network, like a resilient hologram. They dig into externalities: how modern living hides downstream consequences (waste, subsidies, monocrops), while regenerative practices close loops with manure, rotation, biodiversity, and low-input systems. Auggie gives vivid on-the-ground examples, from using pigs and sheep to suppress invasives (like Japanese honeysuckle) to celebrating dung beetles as a sign the soil biology is coming back online. They connect the farm to Bitcoin: Auggie sells farm goods for sats through local meetups, helps bootstrap a circular economy (raw milk, honey, soaps, salsa, 3D-printed goods), and dreams up “trade routes” between cities and meetups to move real-world necessities on a Bitcoin standard. Links Ink Blot Farm KC Bitcoiners Avi's New Book – July 18 Finding Home Episode 3 – Paraguay [IndeeHub Code: PIONEER21 ] Avi's First Book – 24 (2nd Edition)