On this episode of the podcast Enkeshi and Pumpkin talk about Black people’s relationship with swimming and pools in America. We discuss the stats,  dispel the myths, explore the racist histories and share the stories from Black experiences in Appalachia. Guests on this episode include swim advocate Beverly McCloud Iseghohi, University of Montana Professor, Dr. Jeff Wiltse, Black Appalachian author Malaika Adero and Knoxville based cultural worker Aishia Brown.