Keir is striking fear into peers with plans to ditch the Lords – but why not look at electoral reform first? The panel picks apart Labour’s plans for reform. Plus, with major strikes inbound – is this a new winter of discontent? Can the Government succeed in the Grinch narrative, or does that show just how weak our ministers are?

• “Just as trickle down economics has failed, trickle down democracy has failed.” – Naomi Smith 
• “I think Starmer is going to be quite boxed in by the economic situation. But what he could do that is different is something constitutional on the Lords.” – Ayesha Hazarika
• “The Tories are a very divided party, that’s why Sunak is having to drop bills or dilute them.” – Naomi Smith 
• “With Gordon Brown it was never going to be pithy, but it’s amazing seeing a politician believe in things.” – Ayesha Hazarika

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Presented by Andrew Harrison with Hannah Fearn, Naomi Smith and Ayesha Hazarika. Group Editor: Andrew Harrison. Lead Producer: Jacob Jarvis. Producers: Jet Gerbertson and Alex Rees. Assistant Producer: Kasia Tomasiewicz. Audio production by Robin Leeburn. OH GOD, WHAT NOW? is a Podmasters production.

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