Marty sits down with Carl Dong to discuss the launch of Obscura.

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Obscura VPN: https://obscura.net/

0:00 - Intro

0:36 - Solving private VPN payments

5:48 - Explaining VPN hops

12:39 - Fold & Bitkey

14:34 - Censorship game theory

22:13 - VPNs more usable in restricted environs

27:10 - New generation of trustless VPNs

36:59 - User data is a toxic liability

41:16 - New possibilities for internet freedom

50:27 - Obscura's long term vision

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