Is Bitcoin the next logical evolution of money? Where to store your Bitcoin? I personally use a BitBox! - Get a 5% Discount with code "ROBIN" - & visit: https://bitbox.swiss/robin Contact the CyberSecurity & Self Custody Experts from the Bitcoin Way: - 30 mins free call with my link: https://www.thebitcoinway.com/partners/robin Guest's contact: https://x.com/dinparis2012 Summary Deanna Heikkinen and Joel Marquez discuss their book 'Shelsa Satoshi: The Story of Money and the Rise of Bitcoin' and the history of money. Deanna explains that the book tells the stories of different cultures and their relationship with money throughout history, highlighting the need for Bitcoin. They discuss the importance of understanding the history of money to appreciate the value of Bitcoin as a solution. They also touch on the trust involved in money and how centralization and decentralization play a role in various aspects of life. The conversation explores the decentralization of the workplace and its relationship to money. Deanna shares her experience as a gig worker in education and highlights the flexibility and empowerment it offers. Joel discusses the incentives and barriers in the fiat system that make it difficult for individuals to escape the standard employment situation. They also discuss the concept of a moneyless society in an energy abundant system, with Joel emphasizing the need for an intermediary like money even in a world of abundance. The impact of Bitcoin on their lives is discussed, including their move to El Salvador to live on a Bitcoin standard. They envision a future where Bitcoin transforms culture, including the music and movie industry, by removing financial barriers and enabling new funding mechanisms. Takeaways The book 'Shelsa Satoshi' tells the stories of different cultures and their relationship with money throughout history, emphasizing the need for Bitcoin. Understanding the history of money is crucial to recognizing the value of Bitcoin as a solution. Trust is deeply involved in money, and people trust certain forms of money based on various factors. Centralization and decentralization have different roles in different aspects of life, and both can have their merits depending on the context. The decentralization of the workplace is related to the decentralization of money and offers flexibility and empowerment to individuals. The fiat system has incentives in place that make it difficult for individuals to escape the standard employment situation and start their own businesses. Even in a world of abundance, an intermediary like money is still necessary for efficient trade and value exchange. Bitcoin has had a significant impact on their lives, including their decision to move to El Salvador to live on a Bitcoin standard. Bitcoin has the potential to transform the music and movie industry by removing financial barriers and enabling new funding mechanisms. Chapters 00:00 Introduction and Technical Setup 00:41 Background on the Guests' Writing Experience 03:31 The Importance of Understanding the History of Money 07:15 Primary Sources and Telling the Story of Money 12:23 The Role of Trust in Money and Education 17:23 Decentralizing Education and the Bitcoin Community 20:53 The History of Education and Its Challenges 24:56 Centralization and Decentralization in Various Contexts 28:49 Centralization and Decentralization in the Workplace 33:10 The Future of Money in an Abundant System 35:30 The Role of Money in a Decentralized System 47:54 Living on a Bitcoin Standard 54:31 Bitcoin's Impact on the Music and Movie Industry