Join Marty as he sits down with Matt Hill, co-founder and CEO of Start9 Labs, to discuss: - Founding Start9 Labs - The Embassy - Routing around Apple's App Store - Why personal hardware is an imperative moving forward - Self-sovereign surveillance - Making all of this easy - much more Follow Matt on Twitter Check out Start9 Labs' Embassy Shoutout to this week's sponsors. Cash App. Start #stackingsats today. Use the promo code: "stackingsats" to receive $10 and contribute $10 to OWLS Lacrosse when you download the app.