Alexander Bard is philosopher, artist and politician. We invited him to talk about the trinity priest/schaman, matriarch and chieftain/king and the times we live in. This is a challenging, thought provoking perspective that draws upon a specific narrative around our current moment. It deals with the feminine, masculine and shamanoid. The invitation is clear: what does it take for our society to grow up and start taking responsibility? What does it take for you to do that? Hosts: Amit Paul and Nils von Heijne.