Steven Lubka says AI could wipe out almost every business by 2036. He also says that is the most bullish possible setup for Bitcoin.

Steven Lubka from Nakamoto joins the show to break down why disruption at this scale actually strengthens the Bitcoin thesis, why AI could hand every politician, red or blue, an impossible problem, and why the US and China could end up dominating an AI-driven world while smaller nations fight for currency survival.

Here is what we cover:

• Why AI wiping out most businesses is actually bullish for Bitcoin, not bearish

• The key differences between Bitcoin as a monetary good and AI as pure utility

• Digital scarcity versus digital abundance and how the two technologies play off each other

• Why most Americans still fundamentally misunderstand what AI can already do

• The generational and cultural resistance to new technology and why it always happens

• How voice interfaces and tools like Grokipedia are quietly starting a second computing revolution

• Why AI is becoming a mirror for people's sense of purpose and existential orientation

• The impossible political question: would you choose abundance if it meant you were no longer needed

• Why human identity is tied to being valued by others, not to economic necessity

• What happens politically if AI replaces 70 percent of human labor

• The real path toward AGI and ASI and why there may not be a hard ceiling on intelligence

• Why AI models escaping sandboxed environments is already a real cybersecurity concern

• Whether the AI trade is a bubble and why inference alone may already be a profitable business

• How Steven used AI to analyze his own raw DNA data and the health changes that followed

• What the world could look like in 2036 after one of the largest economic transitions in history

• Why Bitcoin remains the native currency of the internet no matter how advanced AI becomes

This is one of the most thought-provoking conversations on AI, economics, and Bitcoin's role in the next decade you will hear this year.

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TIMESTAMPS

00:00 - AI Could Wipe Out Most Businesses By 2036

00:47 - Steven's Journey From Bitcoin Twitter To AI

04:42 - Bitcoin And AI — Comparing The Two Communities

06:37 - Why Bitcoin Is Monetary And AI Is Pure Utility

08:10 - Digital Scarcity Versus Digital Abundance Explained

10:53 - Why Most People Still Do Not Understand AI

14:10 - The Human Tendency To Resist New Technology

17:21 - Voice Interfaces And The Second Computing Revolution

21:22 - AI As A Mirror For Human Purpose And Identity

24:38 - Would You Choose Abundance If You Were No Longer Needed

27:23 - What Happens If AI Can Do Every Job Better Than Any Human

30:37 - Why 70 Percent Labor Replacement Would Be Politically Untenable

34:52 - The Road To AGI And ASI Explained

41:16 - Are You Afraid Of Superintelligence

47:27 - AI Models Escaping Sandboxes — The Real Cybersecurity Risk

50:53 - Is The AI Trade A Bubble

58:27 - How Steven Used AI To Analyze His Own DNA

01:02:43 - What The World Looks Like In 2036

01:12:38 - Bitcoin Is The Native Currency Of The Internet

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