Archival episode with Senator Kirsten Gillibrand from the very first podcast series of The Conversation. Amanda de Cadenet speaks with Senator Kirsten Gillibrand, aka “Tina” to her friends from back in the day. In the midst of her presidential run, Senator Gillibrand chats with Amanda about why she’s branded her campaign as feminist, embracing ambition, and how she manages to be both a present mom and a powerhouse politician.