So, how did that Labour conference go? Did Keir Starmer snatch victory from the jaws of fratricidal defeat with that closing speech? Special guest Clive Lewis MP joins us to work out whether Labour is back on the road to recovery – and what was missing from the Conference. Plus, the German elections a row of light for the centre-left? And is it really so terrible if politicians call other politicians “scum”?

• “If you were casting hecklers to look mad and unsympathetic, you couldn’t have done a better job.” – Alex Andreou
• “Starmer won on a platform of sensible Corbynism. Now he’s changed into a New Labour tribute band.” – Clive Lewis
• “Labour’s choice is they can be the biggest coalition party under PR – or be in opposition forever under FPTP.” - Naomi Smith
• “The Conservative Party is the most successful party in the world – which by default makes Labour the most unsuccessful.” – Clive Lewis

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Presented by Dorian Lynskey with Naomi Smith and Alex Andreou. Produced by Andrew Harrison. Assistant producers: Jacob Archbold and Jelena Sofronijevic. Audio production by Alex Rees. OH GOD, WHAT NOW? is a Podmasters production.

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