Is there a way to transform the classical music world within its current structures? Is change even possible, and what does it look like?  This week, John and Natasha sit down with Kathleen Kelly to dig deeper into these questions. 

Kathleen is a seasoned conductor, pianist, educator, and mentor. Decades into her career, she has been reflecting on her path up to this point. What change has she seen, and what change still needs to happen? How do established artists turn around and help the next generation? How do we come to terms with our mistakes, and how do we begin to rectify them?

Authors/Books mentioned in the podcast:

Thich Nhat Hanh - https://www.goodreads.com/author/list/9074.Thich_Nhat_Hanh

"Listen Like You Mean It" by Ximena Vengoechea - https://www.goodreads.com/book/show/54614554-listen-like-you-mean-it

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