Conservative thinker Jazz Shaw, a former fellow traveler of Joe Walsh's, is an editor and writer at HotAir.com. He joins Joe to hash out where and how each man's lines in the sand get drawn when it comes to assessing the threat of the two major parties, respectively. They find a thing or two to agree on, but ultimately are left with far different conclusions over where the greater threats to democracy lie today, and what's a cult and what's not.