The Matts are joined in the studio by one of the world’s greatest explainers of science; Marcus du Sautoy to discuss his new book Blueprints: How Mathematics Shapes Creativity. It’s a thrilling conversation which leaves both Matts wondering … why can’t maths lessons in schools be this interesting?! Join them as Marcus explains how great art, music and literature all have the power of numbers embedded within - and how maths can transform your personal creativity. But first - the Matts discuss the spending review. Has Rachel Reeves done enough to give this Labour government a chance of a second term? Enjoy!

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