Pinot and Picasso is a paint and wine sipping studio, a franchise business buoyed by the success of people desperate to get away from their screens. 

Founders Aaron Carrasco and James Crowe are high-school mates turned business partners who set up their first franchise in Sydney's west three years ago.

Mark Bouris chats with Aaron and James about assessing and rationalising risk when deciding to take your first leap in business and making data-driven decisions.

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