In a Nutshell: Matthew Pines says trying to speculate and reason about the future evolution of geopolitics and state relations in the absence of Bitcoin is extremely difficult. "In fact, it's probably one of the things that stresses all world leaders out and economists and hedge funds. Everyone's trying to predict how the global system is going to evolve so trying to answer the question of how the global system's going to evolve WITH Bitcoin imposes an additional complexity," he said. Yet, this difficulty doesn't stop us from trying or from gaming out different possible scenarios.

In today's show, Matthew Pines and I discuss the current state of geopolitics among Russia, Ukraine, China, and the US, and the potential role that Bitcoin, stablecoins, central bank digital currencies, and US treasuries might play in shaping the denouement. And we zoom out as well and discuss whether widespread Bitcoin adoption can act as a deterrent to war in general and why Bitcoin might reduce certain incentives to initiate war but not all of them.

Guest: Matthew Pines, Management Consultant, Fellow - National Security, International Policy at the Bitcoin Policy Institute.