Javier Leiva from Pretend did a podcast with me!!!! 

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We teach each other about:

03:10 a pig in a poke

06:30 salting a mine

10:00 melon drop

14:50 vanity awards

21:55 Baltimore stock-broker

25:00 fake casting agents

Plus learn the three most interesting things about me!

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