What will it take for Russia and Ukraine to achieve lasting peace?

A Russian drone strike hit Ukraine's Sumy region just hours after the first direct talks in three years. The warring sides agreed to a prisoners exchange in those talks. But will it lead to a lasting ceasefire? And can the two sides narrow the gap between them?

In this episode: 

• Peter Zalmayev, Executive Director, Eurasia Democracy Initiative.
• Pavel Felgenhauer, Independent Defense and Russian Foreign Policy Analyst.
• Anatol Lieven, Director, Eurasia Program, Quincy Institute for Responsible Statecraft.

Host: Dareen Abughaida

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