In this conversation, Camden Bucey, Ryan Noha, Lane Tipton, and Scott Cook discuss various themes surrounding Reformed apologetics, particularly focusing on the critique of Cornelius Van Til's thought as presented in Keith Mathion's book. After highlighting Lane Tipton's new book Union with Christ: The Benefits of His Suffering and Glory, they explore the challenges of understanding Van Til's work, especially given his use of language and the philosophical context of his time. The discussion also touches on the relevance of Van Til's thought in contemporary apologetics and the importance of engaging with the limitations of human language in theology. Chapters 00:00:00 Welcome and Introduction 00:06:53 Lane's New Book, Union with Christ 00:09:49 Van Til and Idealism 00:24:43 Critics of Van Til 00:38:28 Cunningham on Idealism 00:42:30 A Sale on Our Van Til Books 00:44:32 Van Til's Critique of Adam's False Ideal of Knowledge 00:47:46 Applying Van Til Today 00:57:01 Understanding Idealism 01:03:41 Conclusion