Highlights of my conversation with Clarence: Moving from a lead IC role to a co-founder Leading through influence Giving up the building hat Realizing that you need to let go earlier than you think Look at processes when you see a law of diminishing returns Trial by fire when you don’t know when to ask for help Finding peer groups were a great resource to help deal with similar problems When you start, take your time to find out what you want to do The role of the founder is to find, grow and nurture experts Meet: Clarence Chio is the co-founder and CTO at Unit21, a Google-funded startup in San Francisco building tools to fight fraud, money laundering, and online abuse. He authored the O’Reilly Book “Machine Learning & Security” and is also an adjunct lecturer at U.C. Berkeley, teaching a graduate course on the same topic. If you have any questions for Clarence, please feel free to reach out via: https://www.linkedin.com/in/cchio https://twitter.com/cchio I hope you enjoyed the episode. The best place to connect with me is on Linkedin - https://www.linkedin.com/in/amirbormand (Amir Bormand). Please message me if you want me to cover specific topics with future guests.