Cle-Anne Gabriel is a lecturer at the University of Queensland (UQ), Australia, and the UQ Business School's Director for the United Nations Principles for Responsible Management Education. Her research focuses on the areas of sustainable development and postgrowth futures. During our conversation, Cle-Anne Gabriel questions the compatibility between environmental sustainability and economic growth. Is a de-prioritisation of economic growth as a policy objective a way forward to reduce emissions globally? References mentioned during the episode: - Federico Demaria, Giorgios Kallis, Giacomo d’Alisa, Degrowth: a vocabulary for a new era (book); - Cle-Anne Gabriel, Without nature, there can be no business: the harsh bottom line of ecological debt, Entrepreneur Asia Pacific (article) - Yves Cochet, The next thirty-three years on Earth, Momentum Institute (article) - 2040, by Damon Gameau (film) - Planet Earth II, by David Attenborough (film) - Making sense of climate science denial – Climate change is real, so why the controversy and debate? Learn to make sense of the science and to respond to climate change denial, The University of Queensland (free course). Let's keep the conversation going on social media, find us on Twitter @gosimonepodcast, Instagram @gosimone.podcast and Facebook, or via our website www.gosimone.org.