Please join us at patreon.com/tortoiseshack It is a constant head scratcher to us that the brilliant journalist and writer Jon Schwarz continues to put up with our madness. He rejoins us just 21 days out from the US Presidential election to talk all things political, societal in a presidential race that has ranged from the crazy to the absurd. We also talk Elon Musk and his needy role in it all. No cats were injured during the recording of this podcast. The General Election is on podcast is here:https://www.patreon.com/posts/114250721 Donate to Rory's marathon for Gaza here:https://www.patreon.com/posts/112598735