"I don't care about networking...and load balancing." There's a lot of new concepts and stuff to learn when it comes to developing applications that will run on kubernetes. In this episode, Coté talks with Charles Lowell about his experience. Also, we imagine measuring the humidity of mayonnaise. If you need some excellent app coding, check out Charle's company, Frontside! They also have a podcast where they discuss recent programming frameworks and idea, and relating coding cool stuff. You may recall that Charles was the co-host of Coté's first podcast empire, DrunkAndRetired.com.Special Guest: Charles Lowell.