Zhana is back with her co-editor of the new Noel Ignatiev reader from Verso: Treason to Whiteness is Loyalty to Humanity. We start by talking about Roe being overturned before moving on to Noel's revolutionary dual power strategy, and his intervention into the SDS debates about whether white workers would ever check their privilege.

In the bonus we talk more about his nineties journal Race Traitor and what it actually looks like renounce whiteness.

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Closing song:

Haggathorn - Awakening

with text from David Horowitz's 1999 book "Hating Whitey"