The Ringer's Bill Simmons is joined by Kevin O'Connor to discuss the bright future of the Oklahoma City Thunder, what Chet Holmgren brings to the impressive young team, possible midseason trade candidates, and more (1:36). Then Bill is joined by Benjamin Solak to discuss the Broncos as a teardown candidate, a potential Kirk Cousins trade, C.J. Stroud vs. Bryce Young, the Steelers' sputtering offense, Bill Belichick and the 1-4 Patriots, Daniel Jones's struggles, and more (47:51).

Host: Bill Simmons

Guests: Kevin O'Connor and Benjamin Solak

Producer: Kyle Crichton

The Ringer is committed to responsible gaming, please checkout theringer.com/RG to find out more or listen to the end of the episode for additional details.

Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices