Join AIGA's Executive Director, Bennie F. Johnson, in conversation with design industry leaders and innovators. These conversations seek to inspire dynamic new conversations in and outside of the design community. This episode's guest is Michael Bierut, Pentagram partner and AIGA Medalist. Watch the video version of this episode here: https://vimeo.com/706622293 This episode was originally livestreamed during the AIGA Design + Business Conference 2022.