Oh, Liz Phair. An indie darling and feminist rock icon who DIY-ed herself into underground superstardom with her classic 1993 album "Exile in Guyville", Phair had gone through some ups and downs musically and personally after her breakout album, putting out a few quietly mediocre albums in the late 90s and getting married, having a child, and divorcing. So why did, at the age of 36, Liz "Fuck and Run" Phair team up with bubblegum pop wizards The Matrix, known for their songcrafting for teen pop ingenues Avril Lavigne and Britney Spears, to write aggressively bland midtempo cougar pablum? No one knows for sure, and certainly nobody wanted it - not her loyal fans, not the young girls the Matrixified monstrosities on the album were seemingly marketed to, and certainly not rock critics, who famously derided the album, with Pitchfork giving it a legendary 0.0 rating. Liz Phair's 2003 self-titled album is a mainstay on numerous Worst Albums of All Time list. But is it really all that terrible? Mostly, yes. Parsing through the poor decision making is returning guest, BLOWW wrestler VQ, who once again is asked to analyze the motivations of self-absorbed white women. Give us your Hot White Cum, stoppies. Part of the Pantheon Podcast Network. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices