The 17th Surgeon General of the U.S., Dr. Richard Carmona, who battled his way from the homeless alleys of Harlem straight to the White House  joins forces with the fabulous Judy Ben-Asher, whom you might've seen lighting up the Oprah stage with her DNA expertise. Sounds like an unlikely pairing, right? But trust me, it’s pure magic when they get together!

In our latest episode of #TheProfessionalRuleBreaker podcast, we're stepping beyond the confines of genes and diving deep into what it truly means to break the mold.  

We chat about bouncing back from adversity, the fire that keeps them going, and the sheer passion that compels people like them to challenge the status quo.

So, if you're as curious as I was about how two powerhouse professionals cross paths and the incredible value that emerges from their collaboration, you absolutely need to tune in!

Let's celebrate the art of rule-breaking and the wonders it can do in the world of business and beyond. 

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