Mandy Smith, lead pastor of University Christian Church in Cincinnati OH joins the guys to talk about how our pining for "back to normal" might just be very like the Israelites' complaining in the wilderness and desiring to "back to Egypt". What if we've been broken out of our prison and bondage and have actually been set free to pursue a better land of ministry?

The basis for this conversation is from a post Mandy wrote for Missio Alliance. We hope you are challenged and encouraged to lead with new inspiration into the coming months!

Mandy joined us in the past on Episode 223 - There is Freedom in Transparency as a Pastor.