In Lessons from Plants (Harvard University Press, 2021), Dr. Beronda Montgomery connects the science of plants to the behavior of people. She unpacks how their ability to who they are, where they are, and what they are supposed to do translates into good leadership. In the interview, Dr. Montgomery leads us on a quest for societal change through an understanding of plant physiology and ecology. We unexpectantly venture into applying her expertise to the transformation we hope to see in academia. Plants are fascinating. Society has a lot to learn. Dr. Montgomery ends the conversation with wisdom about how our a priori that plants should successfully grow needs to transfer to how we see every individual human. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices