This week, Paul interviews Ben Patrick, also known as the “Knees Over Toes Guy,” on his podcast in no place other than Costa Rica. They have an in depth conversation about optimal health and diet, how Ben thinks outside the box in terms of exercise and exercise form, and Ben’s upcoming exciting project in regards to opening a school of his own. 00:10:00 Los Angeles vs. Costa Rica and tenants of optimal health 00:13:07 Ben’s diet  00:22:20 Gaining weight & building muscle 00:35:50 Fruit & honey vs. sugar 00:42:20 Toxins in the home 00:40:30 Key principles of fitness 00:45:45 The importance of organs & raw dairy  00:55:52 Strengthening the shoulder 01:00:00 Ben’s upcoming projects & school program Sponsors: Heart & Soil: www.heartandsoil.co Carnivore MD Merch: www.kaleisbullshit.shop Make a donation to the Animal Based Nutritional Research Foundation: abnrf.org  Animal Based 30, join the challenge! https://heartandsoil.co/animalbased30/ Calima Salt: drpaulsalt.com, for a free bag of Calima Sea Salt Bon Charge: boncharge.com, use code CARNIVOREMD for 15% off your order Zero Acre: www.zeroacre.com/PAUL or use code PAUL for free shipping on your first order Air Doctor: https://airdoctorpro.com/, use code PAUL for up to 39% off or up to $300 off your order