We speak with a couple of Atlassian alums on this week's episode, as the first of a two-parter. Our guests are Justen Stepka, co-owner of Enterprise Fund, Atlassian alum, and previous The Razor's Edge guest (episode #16); and Jens Schumacher,  employee number #12 at Atlassian, and the Head of Product for Jira Service Deck, who is now Chief Product Officer at Sajari, a search technology company. In today's episode, we talk about the Atlassian mafia effect and go more into focus on Sajari. This leads to a lot about Elastic Search, about the e-commerce market, and about SaaS development and machine learning that should be of interest.

Topics Covered

• 3:00 – Jens's background and the emergence of the Atlassian mafia
• 10:00 – What does it mean that a cohort of former colleagues keep working together?
• 13:30 – Atlassian roots and background
• 16:00 - Snowflake digression
• 18:00 – The challenges in search
• 26:00 – Breaking down machine learning vs. algorithmic search
• 35:00 - What stage of the e-commerce rush are we in?
• 42:00 – How much of this will stick for e-commerce