On this week's Make It Stop, Ellen Kempner and Larz Brogan of Palehound join us to talk about Québécois Pop Punk Pariahs Simple Plan and their contentious debut album No Pads, No Helmets, Just Balls. We get to talking about the Pop Punk generation gap and the questionable validity of adult men marketing music to pre-teen girls, and we ultimately learn the shocking truth that Palehound may not even exist if not for Avril Lavigne. Through it all we navigate the snotty, whiny posturing of Simple Plan's Pierre Bouvier and get into an intense debate between curmudgeonly punk gatekeepers and earnest lifelong fans, culminating in one of the most shocking album ratings in Make It Stop history. Life is a nightmare indeed.This show is part of Pantheon Podcasts.