Judy Kurtz and Jason Adrians join the Utterly Moderate Podcast to discuss the ins and outs of journalism.

Judy Kurtz has worked as a newspaper columnist and television commentator and is currently an entertainment reporter for the Hill. She has worked at and/or contributed to a number of outlets during her career, including HLN, Sky News, E! News, Canada's Sun Network, SiriusXM satellite radio, Washington's Fox 5, Fox 45 in Baltimore, and People Magazine.

Jason Adrians is the national editor at Lee Enterprises where he manages all national and international content for their 77 daily news organizations throughout the country. He is also the executive editor for the Wisconsin State Journal, one of Lee’s largest news organizations.

Episode music:

• “Please Listen Carefully” by Jahzzar (creative commons)
• “Make Your Dreams Reality” by Scott Holmes Music (creative commons)
• “Reading by Lamplight” by Maarten Schellekens (creative commons)
• “Winter Walk” by Podington Bear (creative commons use)

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