Pierre Rochard cofounder of the Nakamoto Institute and cohost of the Noded podcast and bitcoin evangelist at Kraken - and Francis Pouliot, founder and CEO at Bull Bitcoin join us in this one. We try to settle a Twitter debate between Pierre and Francis about the value of the Stock to Flow model. We polled our telegram chat room before and after the debate and there was a clear winner. We delve into several other topics as well, including various hyperbitcoinization scenarios.  LinksSwan Bitcoin - the best place to buy and invest in BitcoinSwan Signal PodcastSwan Bitcoin on TwitterMusic: When We Stare at the Moon by Donovan Hikaru Swan Private helps HNWI, companies, trusts, and other entities go beyond legacy finance with BItcoin. Learn more at swan.com/private.   Put Bitcoin into your IRA and own your future. Check out swan.com/ira.Swan Vault makes advanced Bitcoin security simple. Learn more at swan.com/vault.