Mase & Sue chat about Mase’s 60th Birthday Bash, the latest episode of THE WHITE LOTUS, and Jennifer Lopez’s odd new crush. Plus, Jesse L Martin discusses the science behind his gig on HULU’S hit crime drama, THE IRRATIONAL, how its bled into his real life, and landing a career defining role in the original cast of Jonathan Larson’s iconic Broadway musical RENT. 

00:00 Introduction and Jacob Emrani Message

00:39 Steve's Birthday Party Highlights

15:44 Pop Culture Talk: White Lotus

23:54 Celebrity Dating Rumors

28:17 𝐈𝐧𝐭𝐫𝐨𝐝𝐮𝐜𝐢𝐧𝐠 𝐉𝐞𝐬𝐬𝐞 𝐋. 𝐌𝐚𝐫𝐭𝐢𝐧

28:52 The Science Behind 'The Irrational'

31:33 Micro Expressions and Poker Tells

37:45 Detective Tropes and Real-Life Observations

40:35 Memories from 'Rent'

52:46 Working with Jonathan Larson