This is our weekly reminder about all of the great shows you can access when you become a member of the Second Captains World Service, for just 5 euro a month. Go to secondcaptains.com/join for details. We spent a surprising amount of the week discussing summer camps and John Stockton's mid 90's trips to Ireland, and we had a great chat with Joanna Harper, a competitive runner who transitioned a number of years ago, and since then has become one of the leading voices in this area. She's now a medical physicist and an advisor to many international sports federations and is based at Loughborough University in the UK, where she’s researching transgender athletic performance. Hosted on Acast. See acast.com/privacy for more information.