On his Irish rebel Grandmother, why things need to go wrong, and how the best time to write is after just the right number of drinks. Comedian and presenter Dara Ó Briain is In For Lunch and catches up with Jay on video call from London, UK to share some food and sparkling conversation. Jay enjoys lunch from Nando's, UK: https://www.nandos.co.uk/ And Dara has a takeaway from Gaucho's: https://www.gauchorestaurants.com/ A Somethin' Else / Jay Rayner production.

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