In this special edition,we ask what a privatised Channel 4 could look like forthe independent programme makers that supply it and the viewers that watch it. Is Netflix’s model the right one to emulate? And what could the potential benefits be? Two indie producers - and former C4 commissioners - Faraz Osman and Steven D Wright, weight up the options. Plus media writer Tara Conlan explains the background to this sudden change in fate for the public service broadcaster.

Also on the programme, we speak to Stephen Mai, Founder of woo - the new wellness media brand backed by ITV.

And, in the Media Quiz we unpack the allegations and denials hitting the media industry this week.

A Rethink Audio production, produced by Phoebe Adler Ryan with support from Matt Hill.

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