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150: Unabridged Interview: Azim Khamisa

No Small Endeavor with Lee C. Camp
No Small Endeavor with Lee C. Camp
Episode • Apr 9, 2024 • 1h 13m

This is our unabridged interview with Azim Khamisa.

How do you forgive the man who killed your son?

In 1995, Azim Khamisa’s only son Tariq was shot and killed while delivering a pizza. The killer was a 14-year-old gang member named Tony Hicks, and due to a recent change of law in the state of California, Tony was tried as an adult and sentenced to 25 years to life in prison.

But instead of responding with a call for outrage or revenge, Azim did the unthinkable: he forgave his son’s killer, and he fought for his release.

“My interpretation of this tragedy was that there are victims at both ends of the gun,” he says. In this episode, he tells the full story of how he uses his experience to help end youth violence, even recruiting his son’s killer to join in the work. It is one of unimaginable grief, staunch faith, and unwavering compassion.

Show Notes:

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Resources mentioned this episode

TKF’s website

Azim’s website

Azim’s TED Talk

Email Azim: azim@azimkhamisa.com

PDF of Lee’s Interview Notes

Link to Transcript for Abridged Episode

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