Twitter: @scottlindberg93 LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/stlindberg/Nostr: npub19jkuyl0wgrj8kccqzh2vnseeql9v98ptrx407ca9qjsrr4x5j9tsnxx0q6 Free Market Kids info:Site: https://www.freemarketkids.comTwitter: @freemarketkidsDiscount code "FUNDAMENTALS" for 10% apparel and games on our Free Market Kids' website is good through end of the month.Free Market Kids — Money Literacy Games & CoursesFun, family board games and courses that teach kids money literacy, Bitcoin, and free-market principles. Shop games or enroll in our MONEY course today.www.freemarketkids.comI open with a mea culpa about mislabeling my “first-ever guest,” set the record straight for Seth from Zapdot Coffee, and then welcome Scott Lindberg—best known as the “HODL Up” guy. We dig into why analog games and in‑person meetups matter in a screen‑saturated, AI‑mediated world, and how Scott designs first‑principles games that teach by doing. He shares the iteration behind HODL Up’s hot/cold storage mechanic, replayability without a dominant strategy, and the low‑time‑preference collector’s editions he builds each halving. We get into the gritty realities of manufacturing physical games, sourcing parts, and the opportunity cost in sats. From there we workshop new ideas: Scott’s upcoming fiat game “Fed Up,” his Lightning game “Channel Up,” and my UNO‑style modular arithmetic concept for kids. Scott offers practical prototyping and playtesting tips (including Gen Con’s designer room), thoughts on messaging for parents and homeschoolers, and a reminder that real connection—like we felt at Bitcoin Park’s Grassroots Meetup—can’t be faked by screens. It’s a conversation about learning, craft, and building culture around the table. Scott Lindberg (creator of HODL Up): https://www.hodlupgame.comHODL Up board game: https://www.hodlupgame.com/hodl-upChannel Up (Lightning-themed game) by Scott Lindberg: https://www.hodlupgame.com/channel-upFed Up (fiat-themed game) by Scott Lindberg: https://www.hodlupgame.com/fed-upSHAmory (Bitcoin kids’ game) by Scott & Mallory Sibley: https://www.shamory.comAnomia card game: https://www.anomiapress.comCashflow board games (Robert Kiyosaki): https://www.richdad.com/products/cashflow-board-gameTuttle Twins: https://www.tuttletwins.comGen Con (Indianapolis): https://www.gencon.comBitcoin Park (Grassroots Meetup host): https://www.bitcoinpark.coRock Paper Bitcoin (podcast referenced): https://rockpaperbitcoin.comMission Bitcoin (podcast/community referenced): https://missionbitcoin.org