Justin Camarena of Bitrefill joins me to talk about his journey with Bitcoin Lightning development and pioneering Bitcoin Lightning payments at Bitrefill. We discuss: Learning Lightning development Pioneering Lightning payment at Bitrefill in the #reckless early days Bitrefill Thor service Lightning Channel Management Thoughts on Lightning custodial wallets What Lightning Network can enable Justin Camarena Links: Justin’s Twitter: https://twitter.com/juscamarena  Bitrefill: https://www.bitrefill.com/  Bitrefill Twitter: https://twitter.com/bitrefill  Bitrefill Thor lightning service link: https://www.bitrefill.com/thor-lightning-network-channels/ Other links mentioned: Turbo Channels: https://medium.com/@akumaigorodski/instant-channels-enable-safe-lightning-payments-with-unconfirmed-funding-8d640defa183  Alex Bosworth Channel Management talk: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HlPIB6jt6ww  Stephan Livera links: Twitter: https://twitter.com/@stephanlivera  Subscribe on iTunes: https://itunes.apple.com/podcast/stephan-livera-podcast/id1415720320?mt=2  Subscribe on Android: https://subscribeonandroid.com/anchor.fm/s/7d083a4/podcast/rss  Website: https://stephanlivera.com/