On this episode of If Not Now, When?, WE sit down with Blue Stiley—motivational speaker, mentor, and host of the Navigating No podcast—for a powerful conversation about rejection, resilience, and what it really means to lead with vulnerability.

From his early years training in martial arts to building a successful fitness business in Seattle, publishing his first book The Sum of 4, and now speaking on stages across the country, Blue has spent his life leaning into challenge and turning setbacks into growth. In this episode, we talk about the “no’s” that shaped him, the mentors that changed his life, and the moment he decided to stop waiting for permission and start showing up fully.

If you’ve ever struggled with failure, questioned your next step, or wondered what your “If Not Now, When?” moment might look like, this one’s for you.