Experts say the iconic San Francisco ferries that shuffle commuters through the Bay are essentially on life support with the Bay Area News Group reporting that per-person costs to the ferry agencies during the pandemic soared over $300 in some cases and that ridership still hasn't been able to rebound to pre-pandemic numbers. 

This is as ferry agencies say the subsidized costs still may not be enough to keep them afloat and that money could run out by 2025.

For more, KCBS Radio news anchor Melissa Culross spoke with KCBS Radio Insider Phil Matier.