This week, in the first ever edition of Fourth + Forever, Tim and Luke mull over week 5 in the NFL, and ask:

- Was the Matt Rhule firing the least surprising event of the season so far?
- Why are there so many bad primetime games?
- What is the Downtrodden Franchise Index, and who’s on it?
- Why do bad special teams plays look so funny?
- What’s up with the Bengals?
- What cruel God saddled us with Bears-Commanders on TNF?
- Why hasn’t Tim seen Any Given Sunday?