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Ableism: The Causes and Consequences of Disability Prejudice with Dr. Michelle Nario-Redmond [IEP 107]

Inclusive Education Project (IEP) Podcast
Inclusive Education Project (IEP) Podcast
Episode • Dec 10, 2019 • 45m

Today’s guest takes us on a fascinating and educational journey into ableism,  the study of disabilities and prejudices of disabilities.

Dr. Michelle Nario-Redmond, a social psychologist at Hiram College in Hiram, Ohio, joins Amanda and Vickie to discuss changing people’s perceptions about disability.

Michelle is the author of Ableism: The Causes and Consequences of Disability Prejudice, and the mom of a 23-year old daughter with spina bifida, who was raised to be a proud, disabled woman.

Show Highlights:

  • Michelle provides an overview of the origins of ableism, and of which literature can be found in political science, psychoanalysis, psychology, and disability studies.
  • There are several distinct sources of prejudice that impact individual thoughts, feelings, and behaviors, such as:
  • an evolutionary/biological basis for fear: humans have a need to feel safe and secure, and might have avoided those who signaled poor health, even in those instances where there was no contamination factor. 
  • the fear of becoming disabled, since most disability is acquired through spinal cord injury or old age.
  • how the media portrays individuals.
  • Ableism is the study of prejudice and discrimination against people who are considered to have a disability.
  • The ABC’s of ableism:
  • A - attitudes 
  • B - behaviors
  • C - cognitions 
  • Michelle addresses the preferred language to use when referring to the disabled. Are they “living with a disability” or do they “have” a disability? Just ask the person their preference! Everyone will have a reason why they prefer one term over the other.
  • “Experiencing” a mental health “condition” is a kinder way than saying “mental illness” because the latter term pathologizes those who have depression, schizophrenia, etc.
  • There’s a new hashtag out from people working in this field doing disability studies and activism, reminding others that disability isn’t a bad word: #saytheword.
  • Although born of existing legislation, when we continue to use the words “special needs” we occlude the notion that these are human needs and civil rights.
  • Michelle, Amanda, and Vickie discuss essential and non-essential qualifiers in the context of a conversation, and the “R” word.
  • Peer-pressure holds a lot of power. 
  • One way to speak up when someone is being micro-aggressive is to ask, “What did you mean by that?” 
  • Michelle shares a personal story and the resulting lesson she learned when she made a faux pas during an encounter with a young woman with Down’s Syndrome at a theme park.
  • Michelle discusses her next steps, which include policy issues.

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