What happens when the helmets come off in audio advertising?
At the 2025 Chief Audio Officer Summit, industry leaders gathered not to pitch, but to share—openly debating the toughest challenges in podcasting and audio. In this special episode, Stew Redwine sits down with Kraig T. Kitchin to unpack the insights, optimism, and candid conversations that defined this year’s CAO Summit at Terranea Resort.
You’ll learn:
- Why vulnerability—not bravado—sparked the most valuable breakthroughs.
- How the industry is grappling with measurement across YouTube, audio platforms, and beyond.
- What radio’s history reveals about the future of podcasts in the age of video.
- How top creators are embracing their dual role as entertainers and salespeople.
- Where AI belongs in creative—and why care remains the human advantage.
From oceanfront backdrops to locker-room honesty, this episode captures the rare environment where competitors become collaborators—and where audio’s future is written in real time.
Ad Infinitum is Presented by Oxford Road and Produced by Caitlyn Spring & Ezra Fox, MFA, written & hosted by Stew Redwine, and sound designed by John Mattaliano, with audio production by Zach Hahn.