The Athletic's Caoimhe O'Neill and Simon Hughes join Steve Hothersall following Liverpool's 2-1 defeat to Manchester United. They analyse where things are going wrong for Jürgen Klopp's side including the poor form of Virgil van Dijk, a lengthy injury list and a hangover from the Champions League final in Paris. With an ageing Reds squad, the importance of sporting director Julian Ward's recruitment role is also discussed, while Simon looks at the contrasting strategies and fortunes of Liverpool and Manchester United's American owners.

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