Nick is joined by broadcaster and writer Lydia Hislop to discuss the latest goings on around the horseracing world today. In rip-roaring form, Lydia deconstructs the key points in BHA Chair Joe Saumarez-Smith's speech to the Racing Together conference yesterday, critiquing the industry's attitude and passivity on science and welfare as well as their lack of understanding on matters pertaining to the Gambling Review. Also on today's show, owner Bill Esdaile offers an explanation for Rare Edition's below par effort yesterday, while Paul Nicholls looks forward to the weekend, Simone Sear drops in from Racing Welfare and Craig Kieswetter reflects on family success at the Dublin Racing Festival alongside a stellar year on two continents across both codes.