A Chat with Chappie We are super excited that Paul Chapman of http://www.thatdatavizguy.com/ and JLL came on the podcast to share his thoughts on so many different topics. In fact, there was so much goodness, we had to split it up! In this second episode, Paul chats about building a COE, the good and bad things that you can do, his three wishes and his entry into the dataviz hall of fame.